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[–] Neato@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your experience is not absolute. It's still abelist and offensive.

[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nah man, I'm just not down for constantly keeping up to date with the treadmill of what words are and arent appropriate... especially for insults, which have never been meant to be appropriate. I dont fucking care if your feelings are so fragile that relatively tame words can hurt you

[–] Neato@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I’m just not down for constantly keeping up to date with the treadmill of what words are and arent appropriate

Then be prepared for people to rightly call you a bigot. Sorry you're done learning, grandpa but the world keeps turning.

And the fact that you now know better and still choose to hurt ableist language just means you're embracing your bigotry.

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Calling someone a bigot based entirely on the words they use instead of the intent behind them is a great way to be wrong 80% of the time

[–] Neato@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone knowing using hurtful, bigoted language and claiming they didn't "mean it like that" is asinine and disingenuous. Using deliberately incorrect terminology nearly everyone will misinterpret and then complaining when they do is placing yourself upon a cross. It's a pathetic level of discourse usually outgrown by middle school.

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're assuming barely anyone keeps up with what the minority of people decide isn't okay to say anymore. Twitter isn't the world. Lemmy isn't the world. Reddit isn't the world. There may be millions of users, but the average person doesn't give a shit about any of these platforms.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

If you think ableist pejoratives targeting neurodivergences and metal impairments are only present on social media, you need to touch some fucking grass. That shit hasn't been OK in decades. South Park even did an apologetic episode on it more than a decade ago which means the discussion was mainstream. And you should 100% not be taking social cues from that show.

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then that's a more honest response than your earlier one. It's not that you don't understand that others may be hurt by your language even though it's not a word you personally ever used to describe developmental disabilities, it's just that you don't give a shit.

Good on you for owning it (on the second try), I guess.

I dont fucking care if your feelings are so fragile that relatively tame words can hurt you

You mean like developmentally disabled people you work with who may have good reasons to be sensitive about certain words? I guess since one of those people said he was cool with it he speaks for all of them. I'm sure none of them have ever been hurt by hateful people using the R word about them.

Nah man, I’m just not down for constantly keeping up to date with the treadmill of what words are and arent appropriate… especially for insults

50+ years old and in my entire life this isn't something I've found to be mentally taxing to keep up with. This is truly the flimsiest excuse I've ever seen for using shitty language. Just stick with "I don't fucking care."

[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you really not know that people can have multiple different reasons and motivations for their behaviours and actions? I've been honest this entire time, there are slurs I absolutely wont use because of their history and the immediate harm they cause, but retard isnt one of them, so my earlier explaination still stands. Its also true that people that get offended on others behalf annoy me and I dont care when I offend them. If I PERSONALLY offend someone for something that they PERSONALLY struggle with? I care in that scenario and I mark it down mentally to adapt to their needs and not hurt them again. You are a stranger on the internet, I dont care about you, I dont have the emotional space to. I didnt casually use the spicy word, I used it specifically as an insult towards people who I've been dealing with dogshit takes from. To be clear, I NEVER called any of my clients Retard, and this client I only did for them, after they requested it, and even then it made me uncomfortable because using that word to refer to someone with developmental disabilities IS gross. Nuance exists. And yes, I'm tired of the treadmill. I have Aspergers syndrome and now the treadmill is trying to tell me that not only did the DSM take that diagnosis away, I'm now not allowed to refer to my high functioning autism as Aspergers since the guy whom it was named after was a nazi, even though my autism has NEVER BEEN about that guy, and IM THE PERSON WHO HAS the diagnosis.

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

xD Ok. Have a nice day!