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[–] Decompose@programming.dev 37 points 1 year ago (5 children)

"Uncorrupt government"

This is as delusional as anyone can get.

A wise man said it all once: "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

That is why we throw them out every couple of years and choose someone different.

I do the same with my underpants.

[–] Decompose@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right... you do understand that most politicians in western countries are career politicians that have been there for decades, right?

A good example is Biden himself. He's been there in politics for like 50 years. It's a geriatric club at this point it's become a common joke.

Same delusion as the poster of the meme. People believe in the same ideals that created the problem without looking at what it has become. Not everything that sounds good is good. Life is more complex than the simple model that simple people keep believing in. People will always find a way to abuse a system for their own benefit. That's the result of "power corrupts".

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

I don't care about your US politics. It is a shitshow no matter how you look at it, with your undemocratic gerrymandering and 2 party oligarchy.

With voting it is at least possible to change the government. The same can not be said about corporations.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Yet you still have shit between your asscheeks

[–] DauntingFlamingo@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

My underpants are also corrupt

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

would be nice, but doesn't seem to really happen, (incumbancy advantage). Also the bigger problem that isn't solved by voting them out or even term limits. Access to money is important to win an election. Same people have money, those people pick candidates that are loyal and see to it that they win. When one old corrupt politician dies we'll get a new one pushed by the corporate media.

[–] okiloki@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

So you bought then back in June 1933 and didn't have the heart to throw them out?

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh so pragmatism would have that we abandon any hope at equality and we should accept to be slaves for the rich?

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A leftie who tells you the government can be "uncorrupt" deserves all the laughter you can aim at them.

[–] SteveXVII@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

Uncorrupt is impossible, maybe it is better to advocate for low levrls of corruption. Less corruption --> less damage.

[–] PerCarita@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've seen this sentiment being repeated in the replies, yet this also applies to private companies that are run by absolutely powerful people. It's true that Lord Acton wrote this about the monarchy, but some execs in multinational corporations today are just as powerful as old-timey monarchs.

[–] Decompose@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago

I don't disagree with you. My contention is that the assumption of "uncorrupt power" is just naive and short term, at best.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

cliches are lame